=CSF= SPQR
Feb 11 2008, 08:06 PM
Dear MOAB -
I would like to appeal my BAN in your server today 64.34.211.171
I was banned by MOAB 007 for Disrespecting Admin. I was shocked as My Clan also has a server and we strictly adhere to our Scrolling Messages - as I would suppose you did to.
I was trying to grab his weapon and it probably appeared that I T-BAG'd him. However, if that is a rule violation - you have a rule #5 you will recieve 1 warning.
You can check the chat logs - there were no warnings, 8 of my m8's were in there and they probably said some stupid crap - and for that I appoligize on their behalf. They were just reacting to what we all felt was an unjust ban. I would like to hope that it was a passion of the moment thing - as I was cutting it up defending plaza.
I respectfully ask that I be given that warning - please unbann me - I enjoy your server as well as my squad does as well.
Your more than welcome to visit us @ www.csf-squadron.com - our Server is easy to locate in vanilla type CSF.
Thanks SPQR
Omalley
Feb 11 2008, 09:05 PM
not really sure what happened but its lifted
=CSF= SPQR
Feb 11 2008, 09:40 PM
thanks there omalley... I appreciate it
ии7
Feb 11 2008, 10:40 PM
Well lets start by reading the log. You were in the wall I gave you a warning "you told me to fuck off dickhead you aint no admin" there for you were banned. See the screenshots below. As for tea bagging i could care less about that.
Fish
Feb 11 2008, 10:42 PM
FUCK HIM! HE WAS IN THE WALL!
If you want the full pics, 007 will Xfire them to you...


misplaced_rage
Feb 11 2008, 10:49 PM
HAX!
ии7
Feb 11 2008, 11:04 PM
And 1 more!
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TuffLuv
Feb 12 2008, 12:12 AM
=CSF= SPQR maybe you should realize that *MOAB* runs battle recorder you freakin hacker.
=CSF= SPQR
Feb 12 2008, 06:04 AM
first off... i was killing you with a supply gun and I was laying on the ground
second off... i dont even know how to get in the walls bro - so these photo's are not legit - im not the smartest player or the best player but I know I dont hack
third ... have you seen my death to kill ratio? 1.14 if i was a haxor wouldnt that be better... ?
fourth... if all that you truly believe that I was hacking - then why did you ban me for disrespecting admin and not hack? doesnt pass the smell test...
007 your entitled to your opinion - but please do not post any doctored photo's because you were wrong... I post a civil post - and I get these photos that are not legit... please be fair and honest.
QUOTE(ии7 @ Feb 11 2008, 08:40 PM)

Well lets start by reading the log. You were in the wall I gave you a warning "you told me to fuck off dickhead you aint no admin" there for you were banned. See the screenshots below. As for tea bagging i could care less about that.
there was no warning - 8 members of my squad were there...
and i never said that *EVER* - show me that screen shot bro
I am sorry to see this - and I will not play in your servers - if you would like to go to bf2player.com and search by my name SPQR - find me playing - and join me in a server - squad up with me - with or with out your tags on - and you will see I am a ligit player always... get to know me before you all make wild accusations... I know 007 is your mate - As you know BattleRecorder can also show you what i was doing at the time i was banned... you can make a video... not just stills that can be doctored...
show the video... admins look at the video and you will see i am just laying there on the ground with the stock durka supply weapon killin legit... someone over the jr members at least...
I am soooo dissapointed.
ии7
Feb 12 2008, 08:16 AM
QUOTE(=CSF= SPQR @ Feb 12 2008, 06:04 AM)

first off... i was killing you with a supply gun and I was laying on the ground
second off... i dont even know how to get in the walls bro - so these photo's are not legit - im not the smartest player or the best player but I know I dont hack
third ... have you seen my death to kill ratio? 1.14 if i was a haxor wouldnt that be better... ?
fourth... if all that you truly believe that I was hacking - then why did you ban me for disrespecting admin and not hack? doesnt pass the smell test...
007 your entitled to your opinion - but please do not post any doctored photo's because you were wrong... I post a civil post - and I get these photos that are not legit... please be fair and honest.
there was no warning - 8 members of my squad were there...
and i never said that *EVER* - show me that screen shot bro
I am sorry to see this - and I will not play in your servers - if you would like to go to bf2player.com and search by my name SPQR - find me playing - and join me in a server - squad up with me - with or with out your tags on - and you will see I am a ligit player always... get to know me before you all make wild accusations... I know 007 is your mate - As you know BattleRecorder can also show you what i was doing at the time i was banned... you can make a video... not just stills that can be doctored...
show the video... admins look at the video and you will see i am just laying there on the ground with the stock durka supply weapon killin legit... someone over the jr members at least...
I am soooo dissapointed.
Those are not doctored i have 4 pics at 1920*1200 showing you in the wall you little faggot.
Fish
Feb 12 2008, 08:41 AM
I have all the full size pics and you were in the wall, there for you should be baned.
To think that someone (007) would take the time to PS 4 pics to show that you are in the wall is just stupid. Get over your ego.
Go wall hack in someone else server.
csf.tank
Feb 12 2008, 12:02 PM
I was also in that server and at no time do I ever recall SPQR saying anything like that. As for this comment "To think that someone (007) would take the time to PS 4 pics to show that you are in the wall is just stupid. Get over your ego.". My response to you is this, at no time or in any of SPQR's post did he mention that PS 4 was ever used to edit a picture. Yet you know for sure and even claim it in your own statement, which leads me to believe that maybe you might have or know who did DR those photos. I look at those photos and I can definately tell that there is something fishy with them. Having been a gamer for a very long time I have come to know that photo's can be Dr'd and since you claim that battle recorder works on your server. I don't think it's to much to ask to post the video of it.
I'm pretty sure I know why he got banned. Couldn't have been because most of 007's teammates couldn't stand losing and starting yelling hacks during the game. That should even be recorded in the log etc. I don't think it's SPQR's ego that needs to be checked. 007 wasn't doing bad, but he did have bad teammates which resulted in his side losing. I can't remember which one of his teammates it was, but I killed a guy in the tv station with a svd at close range and he called me a hack. Some of my squadmates even commented on him calling me a hack. I found it very funny because I don't even play this game that much and I got called a hack.
I think SPQR has made a valid point in his request, which is post the video. But that would eliminate this drama, and lord knows, some people need drama.
ии7
Feb 12 2008, 12:22 PM
The only reason that the pictures are blury is that fish resized them.
I would not kick someone for doing better then me.
You win some you loose some.
I gave him a warning to get out of the wall and he did not and told me to fuck off so he was banned.
The Fullscreen Screenshots are with the forum admins.
They are 100% legit and not doctored.
If you want the 10 MB of ScfreenShots in PNG and JPG let me know and ill email them to you.
Bottom line we pay for the server we make the rules our main rule is no wall glitching do it and your banned.
You have a server if you want to allow wall glitching in your server that fine.
Fish
Feb 12 2008, 12:25 PM
QUOTE(csf.tank @ Feb 12 2008, 12:02 PM)

I was also in that server and at no time do I ever recall SPQR saying anything like that. As for this comment "To think that someone (007) would take the time to PS 4 pics to show that you are in the wall is just stupid. Get over your ego.". My response to you is this, at no time or in any of SPQR's post did he mention that PS 4 was ever used to edit a picture. Yet you know for sure and even claim it in your own statement, which leads me to believe that maybe you might have or know who did DR those photos. I look at those photos and I can definately tell that there is something fishy with them. Having been a gamer for a very long time I have come to know that photo's can be Dr'd and since you claim that battle recorder works on your server. I don't think it's to much to ask to post the video of it.
I'm pretty sure I know why he got banned. Couldn't have been because most of 007's teammates couldn't stand losing and starting yelling hacks during the game. That should even be recorded in the log etc. I don't think it's SPQR's ego that needs to be checked. 007 wasn't doing bad, but he did have bad teammates which resulted in his side losing. I can't remember which one of his teammates it was, but I killed a guy in the tv station with a svd at close range and he called me a hack. Some of my squadmates even commented on him calling me a hack. I found it very funny because I don't even play this game that much and I got called a hack.
I think SPQR has made a valid point in his request, which is post the video. But that would eliminate this drama, and lord knows, some people need drama.
Don't be stupid.
I was not saying 007 used PHOTOSHOP 4.0, I was saying that 007 would not take the time to Photoshop (doctored) four pictures to prove that your guy was wall glitching.
I don't care how he was banned. He was wall hacking/glitching and 007 was right to ban him. It's very simple. The pictures that we have prove it. If his feeling were hurt, stop wall glitching.
csf.tank
Feb 12 2008, 12:46 PM
We don't allow wall glitching either, nor do we condone cheating of any kind. Your right, it is your server, and you have all the rights to make any decision you want. I know what was said to us and the reason given in the game that he was banned for.
Being a recipient of a Dr'd photo before in the past in another game, DFLW, which the person posting admitted it was Dr'd, always makes me leary of any photo being posted. That's one of my reasons for asking for the video.
I'm not here to harass anyone or get into a name calling (pissing contest) debate with anyone. Thus my reasoning for asking for the battle recorder footage.
If you would like, I can discontinue posting on this comment.
Fish
Feb 12 2008, 12:52 PM
You can post here all you want... Debating is healthy. I am a master debater.

007 does not have the skills to PS a pic like that in 2 hours, let alone PS'ing 4 pics in 2 hours.
DHoff
Feb 12 2008, 12:59 PM
Damn, I seem to be missing alot...
=CSF= SPQR
Feb 12 2008, 03:23 PM
I honesty dont - and would never call someone those names that are coming in this thread - I know I am legit and trying to clear my name... Why would a guilty person profess their innocence - if there is clear proof?
I know I was correct in not being a wall hack - I don't even say that your are to blame - I play often in LGN, BFS and they know me - and know that I am a legit player, countless others can attest the same.
I encourage you to squad up with me - you will find me to be a leader in everyway - supportive, I encourage and use VOIP all time.
Furthermore, There has been threads on EA showing that stats have been erased.. I know of 1 player RACERX79 on the BFS squad that have 3 names mimiking his name on BF2Player.com.
When I say these are not legit screen shots - I am saying there has been alot of fishy stuff in EA. I say there are a lot of reasons that you have those - but none of those have anything to do with me, my squads.
A debate also should be healthy - and not filled with name calling as it solves nothing - I ask and still invite anyone to squad up with me - heck I'll give you the addy and pw to our TS and join me - I'd love to play with you and show you... but I thought the ultimate test would be for your to join me by finding my last played on either bF2player.com or bf2s.com... with or with out your tags... i am always game for you to join me and my m8's
Fish
Feb 12 2008, 03:38 PM
You WERE in the wall. Plain and simple.
TuffLuv
Feb 12 2008, 04:23 PM
You are just pissed because you were caught wall glitching. Get over it, go do it in another server. It's not our fault you were caught, it's yours.
kthnxbi
Omalley
Feb 12 2008, 05:41 PM
Wish I saw those Screeneies before I lifted the ban. As of right now you can go fuck your self you wall glitching cock suck. You were in the wall plain and simple. By the way, Battlerecorder is enabled on our server and BR doesnt lie.
Fish
Feb 12 2008, 05:47 PM
QUOTE(Omalley @ Feb 12 2008, 05:41 PM)

As of right now you can go fuck your self you wall glitching cock suck.

That is the best reply yet.
RICAN_HERO
Feb 12 2008, 05:53 PM
YOU WERE CAUGHT HACKER!!!
csf.tank
Feb 13 2008, 07:20 AM
I can assure you that SPQR doesn't hack. But I understand that you don't have to believe him or me on this matter. What we are going to do is see if the area that he was fighting at, which you can tell someone is shooting at someone, might be an area that you can slip into a wall and not realize it. It might be a game glitch or something. Which if 007 saw that, then he has every right to say something.
Now just to figure out exactly where on the map that was taken at. In the heat of battle people move in all sorts of directions to keep from getting hit. Some people bunny hop, some dolphin dive, me, I go prone and take my shots to the head. Apparently from those pics, he stands up and shoots.
I'd like to get this matter cleared up because I for one enjoy playing in that server. I ping it low and have always had a good time in there.
I know that no one from moab has to help, but I'm sure no one knows that map better than you all do. I'm not for sure how this wall glitch thing works at all so I'm asking if we, SPQR and I may join you in trying to figure this thing out, so that we can all have a better understanding of it.
Thanks
csf.tank
Fish
Feb 13 2008, 08:19 AM
Why are you defending him? He was in the wall. He had the kit to do so in that spot (hideout). End of story. Stop acting like this is all sorta new to you.
ии7
Feb 13 2008, 09:42 AM
QUOTE(csf.tank @ Feb 13 2008, 07:20 AM)

I can assure you that SPQR doesn't hack. But I understand that you don't have to believe him or me on this matter. What we are going to do is see if the area that he was fighting at, which you can tell someone is shooting at someone, might be an area that you can slip into a wall and not realize it. It might be a game glitch or something. Which if 007 saw that, then he has every right to say something.
Now just to figure out exactly where on the map that was taken at. In the heat of battle people move in all sorts of directions to keep from getting hit. Some people bunny hop, some dolphin dive, me, I go prone and take my shots to the head. Apparently from those pics, he stands up and shoots.
I'd like to get this matter cleared up because I for one enjoy playing in that server. I ping it low and have always had a good time in there.
I know that no one from moab has to help, but I'm sure no one knows that map better than you all do. I'm not for sure how this wall glitch thing works at all so I'm asking if we, SPQR and I may join you in trying to figure this thing out, so that we can all have a better understanding of it.
Thanks
csf.tank
You are all welcome on the server except for SPQR. Just because 1 person in your clan wall glitches dont mean that you all do.
Fish
Feb 13 2008, 11:40 AM
SPQR has almost 1500 hours in the game and he is acting like wall glitching is something new and had no idea that you could do that...
DHoff
Feb 13 2008, 01:35 PM
Why is it so fuckin hard to get it through your head man. He was in the wall plain and simple.
C'mon now, I even know this.
Omalley
Feb 13 2008, 02:12 PM
QUOTE(csf.tank @ Feb 13 2008, 07:20 AM)

I can assure you that SPQR doesn't hack. But I understand that you don't have to believe him or me on this matter. What we are going to do is see if the area that he was fighting at, which you can tell someone is shooting at someone, might be an area that you can slip into a wall and not realize it. It might be a game glitch or something. Which if 007 saw that, then he has every right to say something.
Now just to figure out exactly where on the map that was taken at. In the heat of battle people move in all sorts of directions to keep from getting hit. Some people bunny hop, some dolphin dive, me, I go prone and take my shots to the head. Apparently from those pics, he stands up and shoots.
I'd like to get this matter cleared up because I for one enjoy playing in that server. I ping it low and have always had a good time in there.
I know that no one from moab has to help, but I'm sure no one knows that map better than you all do. I'm not for sure how this wall glitch thing works at all so I'm asking if we, SPQR and I may join you in trying to figure this thing out, so that we can all have a better understanding of it.
Thanks
csf.tank
Hacking and wall glitching are two different things, lets clear that up right now. hacking is using additional software to give advatages as in aim bot, wall hacking (seeing you opponent on other sides of buildings), no fog, commander hack, and so on. Wall glitching is using vulnerable spots in texture design by the programmers of a game to gain advantage. As in warlord there are a few spots such as these where you can "glitch " or "wall hack" your way into a building, fire out of the building to get kills within the safety of the walls. #1 kit to do this with is Assault. Grappling hook has to be used. There is no accidental slipping into a building. Its only done with intetional use of the grapling hook by throwing it at certain walls throughout the map to gain access.
the spot in mention that SPQR was at can be found on this youtube video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hxDUoKqvAFo&feature=related note the mini map for exact location. This is the same very spot he was in when caught and banned.
We have absolutley ZERO to gain by banning him, so why would you even think we would our waste time to DR. an image of a wall glitcher?
Let him deny all that he wants to you that he wasnt doing anything wrong but the fact is, he was in the wall, he was caught, he was banned. Simple. When connecting to our server, it states clearly and in bold print "WALL GLITCHERS WILL BE BANNED INSTANTLY". 99.9% of all people banned from our server are for this reason and this reason alone. He failed to follow that rule and was punished accordingly. Right now he is just trying to save face with his own clan and deny any knowledge of being in a wall. Its like "The wall glitch fairy came down and glitched him while he was in the bathroom". He was caught and needs to man up to it and take responsiblity for his actions.
We understand that he is a clanmate/friend but you yourself need to open your eyes. Ive been through the same thing with a long time member that was a friend in real life. everyone said he was a hacker/glitcher but I didnt want to believe it and defended him like there was no tommorrow. But in the end I was burned. He was a hacking piece of shit and was removed instantly from our clan. Shit happens, Hackers and glitchers are people we call clanmates/friends.
We are not here to have "bad blood" between clans. We, as in all BF2 clans are a struggling community. But fair play is fair play. No one deserves or has the right to an advantage over any one else.
LBDWAG
Feb 13 2008, 05:58 PM
did we use to pay for the anti-cheater-reporter thing?
Fish
Feb 13 2008, 11:16 PM
I don't think we have it anymore...
that_darn_sasquatch
Feb 14 2008, 01:07 AM
Oh Snap Son!
DHoff
Feb 14 2008, 12:51 PM
We need Punksbusted again.
Omalley
Feb 14 2008, 02:13 PM
punksbusted has nothing to do with wall glitching homo's so it wouldnt matter any way.
Fish
Feb 14 2008, 03:41 PM
HAs anyone posted the wall glitching homo's pic on his clan's fourm?
ии7
Feb 14 2008, 09:48 PM
QUOTE(Fish @ Feb 14 2008, 03:41 PM)

HAs anyone posted the wall glitching homo's pic on his clan's fourm?
Not I.
DHoff
Feb 15 2008, 10:33 PM
QUOTE(Omalley @ Feb 14 2008, 02:13 PM)

punksbusted has nothing to do with wall glitching homo's so it wouldnt matter any way.
Well I know that. I was talking about having it in general.
Unleased013
Feb 17 2008, 07:59 AM
Ya know... I agree with O'malley. This guy took a risk and was cought. If he was smart he wouldnt do it in the first place becouse if you do it once you surely will do it again and again as a habit. We take him responsible for it and nobody els for what he did. Let him cry about it or deny it. I think he should be happy we dont report him to other clans aswell. Besides he should not waste his time here but go and play on other servers, enough are out there for him to mess up or to get cought again. And we should put an end on this one. Becouse this clitcher is not worth stressing about it. And it surely wont be the last one we will catch hehe
TuffLuv
Feb 17 2008, 10:19 PM
Dynamic here, cant be assed to login on this PC lol...
Firstly, we dont doctor Screenshots, if we did that we would give you a pretty pink skirt to go along with it.
Second, csf.tank, if you are the same csf.tank that I remember, that used to play the Delta Force series of games, your opinion is about as good as president bush's. You used to wallhack and glitch like mad in those series of games. And get banned doing it. Pathetic.
Why don't you and your wallhacking butt buddies take a walk.
csf.tank
Feb 18 2008, 07:45 AM
I would expect more from someone that apparently played those games, here's my link to all my stats in all of the df series for you, and you can see that I have NEVER had a banned character, or been put on WATCH for that matter.
https://www.novaworld.com/Forums/UserInfo342995.aspx. How about you, what characters did you play under. I'd love to look up your stats, since you admitted that you used to play those games. Or I might check the old data base to see if you had any banned characters.
I have been very polite and courteous to all of you on these forums, but you dynamic, You have just earned yourself the "you have no f'ing clue wtf your talking about" award. Now go rock yourself in your own little corner and dream up something else.
If that link don't work, go to www.novaworld.com, click on players, and just enter my name, csf.tank and all my stats from every df series I have is there. I'm sure there'll be no apology, that would be to grown up for you.
Fish
Feb 18 2008, 08:17 AM
SPQR is a wall glitcher. That is all.
=CSF= SPQR
Feb 18 2008, 11:52 AM
how do i know those pics are doctored? i was in the PLAZA when 007 banned me - not insurgent hide out...
again - facts seem to alude you all... I just wish one of you brave - insulting folks would take me up on my offer to join me in any server i frequent - tags on or off and watch my game play at any hour of the day... hell create a 2nd char - that I would have noooooooooooooooooooooo idea that it was you - and join me - squad up and watch me... you would find that i do not hack, my m8's do not hack and.... well...
its not going to happen because you all hunker down here - lob insults and call people names rather than back up what you think you see proffered by a screen shot... show the video if you have battlerecorder on...
i assume this post will be followed by 10 or 20 of your flame posts ...
FLAME ON!
Fish
Feb 18 2008, 12:14 PM
QUOTE(=CSF= SPQR @ Feb 18 2008, 11:52 AM)

how do i know those pics are doctored? i was in the PLAZA when 007 banned me - not insurgent hide out...
That's some kinda ego. Who the hell would take the time to photoshop pics of you? We don't care if you think that the pics are photoshoped or not and since 007 is a original, paying member of MOAB, we will take his word over yours.
Some of us use a program to admin the server and it takes a few to log in.
QUOTE
again - facts seem to alude you all... I just wish one of you brave - insulting folks would take me up on my offer to join me in any server i frequent - tags on or off and watch my game play at any hour of the day... hell create a 2nd char - that I would have noooooooooooooooooooooo idea that it was you - and join me - squad up and watch me... you would find that i do not hack, my m8's do not hack and.... well...
You seem to alude the facts- We have 4 screen shots of you from different angles of you IN THE WALL at hideout. That's all the facts I or 007 needs to ban you.
And most of MOAB would not want to play on the same server with you, let alone your squad seeing that you are a wall glitcher.
QUOTE
its not going to happen because you all hunker down here - lob insults and call people names rather than back up what you think you see proffered by a screen shot... show the video if you have battlerecorder on...
I didn't have a chance to get to the FTP server before it was over written. We used to only store the last 5 games, now that has been changed to store more games. But we still have the screen shots of you in the wall, glitching.
QUOTE
i assume this post will be followed by 10 or 20 of your flame posts ...
FLAME ON!
1.) You are ugly and your mother dresses you funny.
ии7
Feb 18 2008, 06:57 PM
Lets all look at your stats SPQR.
Humm 125 Kicks looks like u do this offen.
And stat padding killed 107 time by the same person in a round.
Fish
Feb 18 2008, 07:05 PM
QUOTE(ии7 @ Feb 18 2008, 06:57 PM)

Lets all look at your stats SPQR.
Humm 125 Kicks looks like u do this offen.
And stat padding killed 107 time by the same person in a round.
2.) It also says that he eats babies.
Unleased013
Feb 18 2008, 07:32 PM
3.) Wall glitching cock sucker. That is three
General091
Feb 18 2008, 07:36 PM
4.) Wall glitching homo. Go glitch your mother. Four
GIS_Junky
Feb 18 2008, 08:17 PM
SPQR,
Watch your tone............... Big Brother is always listening..................
TuffLuv
Feb 18 2008, 08:34 PM
5.) You are an idiot.
But I do like the fact you are trying to give 007 an ego kick... though he doesn't need it

You are just pissed off because you were caught. Simple way to solve this WHOLE case... DO NOT CHEAT.
Simple enough huh?
197575
Feb 18 2008, 08:40 PM
QUOTE(csf.tank @ Feb 18 2008, 06:45 AM)

I would expect more from someone that apparently played those games, here's my link to all my stats in all of the df series for you, and you can see that I have NEVER had a banned character, or been put on WATCH for that matter.
https://www.novaworld.com/Forums/UserInfo342995.aspx. How about you, what characters did you play under. I'd love to look up your stats, since you admitted that you used to play those games. Or I might check the old data base to see if you had any banned characters.
I have been very polite and courteous to all of you on these forums, but you dynamic, You have just earned yourself the "you have no f'ing clue wtf your talking about" award. Now go rock yourself in your own little corner and dream up something else.
If that link don't work, go to www.novaworld.com, click on players, and just enter my name, csf.tank and all my stats from every df series I have is there. I'm sure there'll be no apology, that would be to grown up for you.
You are right, there will be no appology from me. I did used to play those games, Top 50 in DFLW and TFD and GOA 3 times in BHD. And don't make me make a fool of yourself here in front of everyone. On my OLD system that is currently in my basement I have a massive database on my harddrive of cheaters I have caught, all with screenshots... How embarrassed would you be if i hooked the system back up and pulled up your name and posted all my info including names linked to your accounts aswell as screenshots of you sitting inside of the walls on Dark City and Rumble Town.
Now SPQR, if you played aswell, which I think you did, because your name is familiar, I am very disappointed as I know for a fact I never had any screenshots or names or anything linked to you.
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